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    Stupid Buyers and Sellers

    I'm gonna rant a bit this morning. Sorry in advance.. I'm selling some stuff online and have been dealing with the usual time wasting morons. In Canada we mostly use a free Craig's List type of website www.kijiji.ca. My research indicates the ratio of idiots vs legit sellers/buyers is about 2:1 in favor of the morons. Some of the things I loath are..

    • Not reading the ad. Some people just vaguely look at the ad title and fire off time wasting questions. Like a golf cart I'm selling right now. I clearly indicate it's a gas cart and has NO engine but I'm still getting questions about what condition the batteries are in (it's NOT electric!) and how well it runs. I even had one question about how quiet it is for campground use. I said it's super duper quiet unless you grunt when you're pushing it. I've also been asked why it doesn't have an engine, if it's a one owner etc.
    • No details, no pics (or maybe one upside down crummy shot). They just put "<fill in the blank> for sale" like what they have is so special the seller isn't required to say any more than that.
    • Stupid lowball offers. If I was going to practically give something away it wouldn't be to some dipstick stranger.
    • Posting pics of something that isn't actually what they're selling to show "what it could look like". Thanks but I don't need some bozo to do my googling for me. These ads are often posted by somebody who has a POS failed project that they want to get rid of.
    • Ridiculous prices. Ads like that especially pollute the classic vehicle section. The sellers are hoping some imbecile will buy on impulse without any research.
    • Ridiculous prices in reverse. Fraudulent ads with crazy low prices to tempt the uninformed and get them to wire money. It must work because they keep doing it.
    • Make an offer.. with no indication of what value the seller has in mind. I've never responded to an ad like that except to ask how much *they* think it's worth. And I have to be really interested to even go that far. They must think their salesmanship is so good they can get somebody to pay more than something is worth if they can just get a conversation going with them.
    • Posting ads in one geographical area when the item is half way across the country. 99% of the items for sale are dependent on location. Nobody is gonna travel very far to pick up a used exercise machine or whatever.
    • Posting a want ad when somebody is actually selling something. How dumb do you have to be?
    • "Just testing the waters" type of ad. Either it's for sale or it isn't. If they want to play footsie they should find a kangaroo and see how that goes.
    • Outright lies, like vehicle mileage or tractor hours. The sellers word the ads to attract a lot of hits. They think if enough dumb asses see their ad there's a good chance at least one potential buyer won't realize how bogus their claim is. And sometimes they're right.
    • Endlessly re-posted incoherent rambling ads. This is a particular pet peeve. You have to read most of the nonsense in the ad to know if you want to pursue it further. For example, there's a nincompoop on Kijiji selling a crappy purple 1970 Mustang coupe with an automatic and green interior (holy barf-worthy color combos Batman!). Unless they're 4 speeds coupes are not popular with the collectors so even without the 100% tasteless appearance he can only get 5 grand or so ..and that's IF he finds a buyer that's as tasteless as he is. He has nevertheless posted the same ad for the car for several years now at a very unrealistic price of 10 grand. He keeps saying "I KNOW WHAT I HAVE!" (NO HE DOESN'T!). Just fer fun my brother and I try to be the first one to send each other the link to his ad when he re-posts it.


    I could go on and on but I want to go out and accomplish something in the shop today, unlike yesterday..
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    One phrase fits here. "Stupid is as stupid does". I think the cave man was a smarter person.
    "Everybody is a genius.
    But if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid."
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    Down here we are stuck with CL, which has a world of resident scammers. Whenever I list something, I insist on being contacted by email (anonymous link through CL)....never, ever under any circumstances list your phone number. That's just asking for digital troubles. May be different up where you are, but that's the only way to screen out the idiots on CL. I've noticed the younger set now has their social media marketplaces, like FaceSpace, etc. and the newest phone-driven app sales sites...Offer Up, Let It Go, etc. I've seen some decent JD garden tractors listed on the FB site, but unless the seller includes their phone number in the photos you have no way to contact them except through FB messaging. Never gonna do that...don't want to be plugged into the mindless Cloud world of anarchy/thievery/canabilism.

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    I always go with just messaging on a buy and sell site at first. Definitely no phone number and I only give out my general area not my actual address. Conversely.. some people insist on calls only, no messaging. They must like listening to phone scams. I'm not familiar with CL but I know there needs to be some sort of rating system on Kijiji. The clueless are running wild. They move slow mentally though. Kinda like the Walking Dead. If one of them gets you it's your own damn fault.

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    Having bought and sold tractors on Kijiji I couldn’t agree more with you army.


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    I have definitely had my fill of annoying experiences. My biggest peeves are sellers that either never respond to your initial inquiry or require umpteen attempts to get your most basic questions answered. If it’s already sold then say so and take the darn listing down. Don’t know about others but I am not about to make a several hour/hundreds of miles journey half way across the state when a seller is evasive or makes communication difficult. Recently purchased a 1964 model 110 parts tractor off of CL and the seller couldn’t even properly identify the number of lug bolts that were holding the rear rims on (correct answer was in fact 3, his answer was 5). This was even after I clarified that I was not asking how many mounting holes there were in the rims but the actual number of bolts holding them on. And yes to you early model 110 enthusiasts I am aware that JD offered a replacement 5-bolt hub for the early 1963-64 3-speed transaxle but that wasn’t the case here. The stuff we do in pursuit of our hobbies. LOL

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    Good one Bob. I was talking to a guy one day who couldn't grasp at first how wheels with 5 holes can be used on the 3 hole hubs on my 1964 Massey Ferguson Executive (it was actually made by Moto-Mower). To be fair i think it was just a momentary brain fart.

    Another irritating thing is silly trade offers. Sometimes they're amusing though. I got offered two cows one time for a tractor. When I turned him down the guy posted his own ad offering the cows for somebody else's tractor. Anybody who follows tractor ads on Kijiji would likely have seen it. It was actually kinda tempting. If I had cows I would have an excuse to buy a horse to rope them with. That would be pretty nifty, at first anyway. I'd need a good cowboy rope too not something nylon that will stretch itself into a guitar string before it starts tugging on whatever is being moved. One time just to see what would happen me and my brother tried to pull the top part of a 8x10 deck across the yard with a 1/2" yellow nylon rope. I just wanted it out of the way till I could scavenge the wood from it. I tied it to my brother's 4x4 bumper and he got about double the original length of the rope before the deck started moving. There was snow on the ground to help it slide along and he actually managed to pull it about 20 feet before the rope broke.

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    • Cub Cadet Model 71, Ford 8N w/6 ft Woods belly deck, Ford 860
    • 1990 EZGO (gator wannabe), 1997 Club Car and 1970 Cushman golf carts
    • 2000 F150 4x4 shortbox stepside, 1976 Corvette, 1950 F1 Ford pickup, 1996 Splash 5.0 V8 project
    • Armstrong 3 HP antique stationary engine (runs like a top) and a couple other hit and miss type engines





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    Yeah, the "divine" sellers take the cake...don't provide any way to contact them other than mental telepathy, or they simply don't answer your inquiries. I was interested in two 212's offered as a set, with a working tiller with mule drive...best the guy could say was "well, come up this weekend and call me when you get here...but I may be working." Right, I'm gonna drive 3 hours just to see if you'll answer the phone...even if you're not at work.
    Ah the human species...interesting the say the least.

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    The supply of boneheads must be endless. I'm still getting dumb questions. This guy is actually a repeat offender. I don't even know what he's talking about now.
    no engine dammit!3.jpg

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    • 1981 JD 400, 1980 JD 400, 1975 JD 400, various JD 400 attachments, 1966 JD 110 RF, 1979 JD 214, JD L100, JD 111
    • Cub Cadet Model 71, Ford 8N w/6 ft Woods belly deck, Ford 860
    • 1990 EZGO (gator wannabe), 1997 Club Car and 1970 Cushman golf carts
    • 2000 F150 4x4 shortbox stepside, 1976 Corvette, 1950 F1 Ford pickup, 1996 Splash 5.0 V8 project
    • Armstrong 3 HP antique stationary engine (runs like a top) and a couple other hit and miss type engines





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    I just replied to that and asked if he's looking for upholstery or a golf cart..

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    • Cub Cadet Model 71, Ford 8N w/6 ft Woods belly deck, Ford 860
    • 1990 EZGO (gator wannabe), 1997 Club Car and 1970 Cushman golf carts
    • 2000 F150 4x4 shortbox stepside, 1976 Corvette, 1950 F1 Ford pickup, 1996 Splash 5.0 V8 project
    • Armstrong 3 HP antique stationary engine (runs like a top) and a couple other hit and miss type engines





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