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    Quote Originally Posted by N2 Tractors View Post
    sounds like a pretty neat little trick. Do you pull them out right after spraying or do you wait for the paint to dry and harden?
    From my experience it worked best if you pull them out while the paint is still a little soft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlw53 View Post
    From my experience it worked best if you pull them out while the paint is still a little soft.
    Good to know

    Quote Originally Posted by bloodrunsgreen View Post
    Can you use them to play cards after spraying them? Should would lend to some interest games.

    I would think before, so you don't peel the paint whether tacky or dry (might even leave some card residue on rim).
    That was my thoughts but some cards have wax on them so I figured I’d get the answer instead of guessing and having a 50/50 chance of getting it wrong.
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    ‘73 140 H1, ‘75 214, ‘79 JD 317 Onan P218G, JD F935, 19xx Wheel Horse D250 550 Arc FEL ARPS Box blade

    Not Running:
    ‘69 JD 140 H3, ‘75 JD 300, ‘79 JD 317 Kohler KT17QS II, ‘83 JD 420, late ‘80’s JD 316, ‘90 JD 316,

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    2x 300 series 3PH, Johnson Workhorse 12, Gannon Earthcavator 32”, 2x JD 54” 4way blade, 2x JD 33 Tiller + 8" Extension, JD 38” Brass tag mower deck, JD 48” mower deck, JD #30 Hydro Tiller, Disks, Plow, ARPS Angling Backblade

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    Took the sheet metal off the front again and was going to start sanding to paint hood support, grille, engine shields, and hood.

    Instead went to the rear of the machine and started cleanup in the rear. Leaky right rear axle seal and taillight ground were known issues that need repair. Also found that someone has removed the lift cylinder lockout valve, left rear brake drum has the end of a spring sticking out the back side, and I broke the sight gage tube. Tube had been cobbled with a clear tube that was brittle and broke while I was cleaning oily residue from the tube to the top fitting on transaxle. Adding these items to repair list.

    Question ... Is the lockout important if I am not going to mount a mower deck? Valve is $112 from Deere or $50 from Auxiliary Hydraulics. I plan to install the H3 valve/levers. H3 would be hyd circuit for lift cylinder to activate 3PH/pair of rear couplers. Too many parts on the inventory shelf. Would a diverter valve work better than H3 set up? I am not sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to hydraulics.

    One more item ... steering cylinder rod guide seems to have a slow leak. Is cylinder repairable or do I replace?
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    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Amost every thing Hydraulic on these tractors can be serviced/repaired from what I have read on these forums.
    Running:
    ‘73 140 H1, ‘75 214, ‘79 JD 317 Onan P218G, JD F935, 19xx Wheel Horse D250 550 Arc FEL ARPS Box blade

    Not Running:
    ‘69 JD 140 H3, ‘75 JD 300, ‘79 JD 317 Kohler KT17QS II, ‘83 JD 420, late ‘80’s JD 316, ‘90 JD 316,

    Attachments:
    2x 300 series 3PH, Johnson Workhorse 12, Gannon Earthcavator 32”, 2x JD 54” 4way blade, 2x JD 33 Tiller + 8" Extension, JD 38” Brass tag mower deck, JD 48” mower deck, JD #30 Hydro Tiller, Disks, Plow, ARPS Angling Backblade

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    Gabby. With an H3 no need at all for cyl lockout valve...inner lever, front right ports. ctr lever, front left ports. outer lever, rockshaft. If for some reason you add rear outlets for ??, they could be operated from outer lever and a lockout valve could be needed.

    Can't give any hands-on info on steering, but I agree with N2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabby_in_wis View Post

    One more item ... steering cylinder rod guide seems to have a slow leak. Is cylinder repairable or do I replace?
    The cylinder is repairable by the cut apart, replace the seals and then weld back together method. I have not done this repair but with the correct tools it is doable. It is the way it was made in the beginning. And it helps to have a way to accurately cut the cylinder at the opposite end of where the rod comes out. Some have used a lathe and some have used an angle grinder. I think the lathe would be more accurate. Also you must control the heat when re-welding so it doesn't damage the new seals. With the equipment I have and my welding skills, I would not personally try it, I would find people to help me.
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    I have been working on my new building so work has slowed on the 318.

    I did order firewall insulation from John Lange that I need to install. I figure it will be easier to install H3 vavle and lever with engine out of frame and as long as the engine is out of the frame I may as well install new insulation. Currently there is no insulation. Anything else I should do while the engine is out?

    Mother Nature is showing us how much she loves us right now. Tomorrow morning I need to fix the transmission sight level gage and put all the sheet metal back on so I can clean up 5-6" of snow.
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Gabby I have replaced the front spindle bushings on my 420, not too hard to do. Most of the wear I had was on the bushings instead of the spindle, hopefully yours will be too.

    I got them out with a hammer and rod for the bottom and a slide hammer for the top ones. New ones were pressed in with a scrap piece of acme threaded rod, nuts, and washers.

    Don't forget to tighten up the axle wear plate bolts too, took a lot of slop out of the front end on mine.

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    Thanks for the feedback. I have already tightened the axle wear plate bolts about 1/2 - 3/4 turn. Any tighter and I had interference in axle pivot. I ordered tie rod ends from ebay. Wrench slipped when installing one and pulled the ball out of the socket. I should have know better and order Deere parts. One of the original had a small amount of looseness and other was still snug. Going to reuse them.

    Worst looseness was rims on axle shaft end play ... Need to measure and find correct thickness washer/shim.

    I haven't done anything with bushings yet ... Gabby
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Took the day off working on my new shop to do some work in town. Was going to work on the 318 but ended up spending the day sanding and painting model 49 parts. I did start making a list of some parts I need but difficult to make list if assemblies are not tore apart so unsure what you need. I need a 2-3 day time period to do some major repairs/mods.

    Need to pull engine to install firewall insulation I got from John.
    • while engine is out need to clean up and paint frame.
    • with firewall out should be open to remove H2 valve & levers and install H3
    • clean up harness/hose area under electrical box.
    • remove fender deck and console side panels to clean areas under panels.
    • clean and paint rear differential
    • repaint panels
    • random electrical work
    • probably best time to replace leaking axle seal.
    • with axle disassembled see what the rear brakes need.

    I think I need a full week for all this.
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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