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    Exactly, I know exactly what you're trying to say Bob but in this case i'm thinking in terms of torque.

    I was thinking about this last night. I think the reason this 'works' or rather people get away with it is:

    1) the auger is big and heavy, it carries a ton of rotational mass which helps it resist shock loads, and the chain has some additional give, so even though the gearbox is seeing higher torque its not as much abuse as direct drive
    2) The limiting factor is the engine torque which is sized to the gearbox (probably oversized to the biggest engine possible, 332?)
    3) the belt slip ultimately limits torque to whatever the transmission capability of the belt is, I'd guess about 25 ft lbs? I have in a pinch made mine squeal/ slip the belt but thats really givin' er.

    upon further consideration i'd guess its probably not going to hurt the gearbox, maybe put extra load on it, but more importantly does it actually work better? I've only got the 16 hp single so some folks with the big twins might have different experience but my '49 will bog down the engine way before it stops chucking snow, not sure i'd want to go that direction.

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    Back to the update ...
    • the following items have been cleaned up and painted black.
      • auger (bent flights have also been straightened)
      • arm ... per PC1080 calls this is the smaller bracket that fits on the shaft and shear bolt ties the arm and auger together
      • bearing locking collars
      • drift cutter and driveshaft tube have been sanded and painted black.
      • shell and chain cover have fresh coat of yellow paint.


    Still needing work...

    • mounting bracket and most of components bolted to bracket still need clean up and repaint (black)
    • lift cylinder needs repaint (black)
    • hydraulic hoses have much overspray from previous repaint. Hoses are cracked but do not leak. They will not be cleaned up but reinstalled for use.
    • Angle bracket which bolts to center of shell ahead of discharge chute needs clean up and fresh coat of yellow. I think I have a Deere decal that mounts on this bracket.
    • Skid shoes need to have paint removed and taken to Denny for weld repair. New material will be added. Then painted black. Will probably take the skid shoes from 826 and have same repair done to them.

    I know I owe photos. Tomorrow morning I plan on reassembling auger into shell with new bearings. After reassembly would be a good time for photos.
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    I had to sand and repaint part of the shell this morning. It was painted with bottom of can and paint job was spattered. It still need another sanding and light coat to get satisfactory finish.

    Also painted some of the other parts.

    I had photos but don't know what happened to them when I downloaded them to the computer. The files became corrupt so will go get some more. Some of the photos cannot be duplicated but will get photos of current status.

    Gabby
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    The first three photos are snow thrower being reassembled. Auger has been installed in the shell and drift cutter bar and chain cover temporarily installed. Due to original condition of model 49 decision was made not to spend money on sandblast and powder coating. Rebuild will be 100% mechanical but appearance will only be about 7 on a scale of 10. I still need to install keys in auger and lock the collars into position after setting the auger in correct position.

    Spent some time today prepping other parts for paint. Used heat gun to remove a painted over decal on the short chute which will be reinstalled. I will clean up and paint the tall chute also to use on another project. I will be selling this model 49 so if buyer wants the tall chute and is willing to pay additional amount it will be ready to install. The center angle bracket also has a painted over decal I need to remove and bracket painted. I think I have a new decal in inventory so it will be replaced.

    Lift cylinder has been painted and hoses reinstalled. The original hoses have yellow overspray from PO repaint. They will be the sore eyes of the project. Again, I do have replacement hoses in inventory that I can install if buyer wants them.

    Tearing down the mounting bracket for repaint. PO paint job painted the bracket yellow with overspray on pulleys, shafts, springs, pins, etc. They will all be repainted black to be color correct.
    I have found the most difficult task on these rebuilds is removing the drive pulley on the gearbox. I have damaged many pulleys removing them so am being cautious not to damage the pulley. It is expensive and I do not want to have to replace it.

    Second most difficult task is replacing the bearing on the driveshaft. The complete length of the driveshaft needs to be cleaned with emery cloth. The bearing is rough on the SB so will need to replace the bearing.

    Last photo is the skid shoes that need weld repair and repaint.

    I figure I have 4-5 days to complete this project but need to get to my rural property to some work done on my new shop. Menards 11% Rebate expires Sunday and I need to return two door and replace them with fire rated doors.

    Gabby
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    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Looking good so far.
    73 110 39 deck
    72 112 47 deck
    73 140 H3 48 deck
    37A Blower
    31 Tiller
    33 Tiller
    54 4 way Blade
    80 cart

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    If that's only a 7 then mine looks like a -2! Looks great so far. Hopefully I can do the same to mine this summer.

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    Rattle can paint job and no sandblasting is not giving me the quality I saw in other restorations but due to the dented up shell I felt it best to keep costs down and try to recoup all expenditures. Yes it looks good but a person's worst critic is himself ... Gabby
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    I'm hoping mine will turn out to be a 5 or 6. Anything is better than what it is now. But, like you, I'm planning on focusing on mainly the mechanics of it.

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    I found when doing my tiller that, if I filled in the scratches in the original paint with primer and spent the time sanding it smooth, I could make a pretty decent rattle can paint job.
    Probably won't do that on my blower because there are more scratches and rust than original paint left on it.

    How hard was it to straighten out the bent part at the front of the shell? I have the same thing on mine that I need to straighten out.
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    73 110 39 deck
    72 112 47 deck
    73 140 H3 48 deck
    37A Blower
    31 Tiller
    33 Tiller
    54 4 way Blade
    80 cart

    https://www.wfmachines.com/forums/sh...10-restoration

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    Looking good Gabby! I just saw a 49 by me for sale. The seller wants $50 bucks. Looks like it is missing chain cover, pulley, shaft and gearbox. Just might be worth looking at. Same person has an 80 cart with rust thru in cart bed.
    John J.

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    '73 140 H3 w/ deck
    bunch of off color GTs also

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