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    Jeff, do you mean the middle of the shell bent downward?

    I just rolled the bare shell over so shell was resting on the chute base. Whacked it a few times with a small sledge hammer. Used a 48" steel ruler to check for straightness. Top front of shell is bent slightly downward also but was not noticeable so I left that alone.
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
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    3" - 5" new snow predicted for today. While waiting for the weather to stop snowing went to the garage and got productive with the snow thrower again.

    As predicted pulley removal was a chore. The key moved freely in slot until outer surface of the pulley.

    • Used a file to file the exposed portion of the key way. That was the area not allowing me to remove the key. Filed both sides of keyway and key was moving further but could not remove.
    • I used an allen wrench down in the keyway with screwdriver to pry the key. Almost there so held the long side of wrench with pliers and
    • Hit on the pliers with hammer to expose the key enough to grab with vice grip.
    • Key came out.

    Now have to get the pulley off the shaft.
    • With the key removed and locking the gear box from turning with a a block of wood between mount a friction disc clamp I tried to rotate the pulley on the shaft.
    • Pulley was still stuck to shaft. I just kept working is back/forth and spraying with lubrication oil. Slowly moved a little in each direction. Kept working it and spraying with oil until I was able fully rotate the pulley on the shaft. Finally was able to remove the pulley. Before I put it back together I need to clean up parts with emery cloth.

    Removed all the parts from the mount. They are ready to be cleaned up and painted. Yellow paint was spray over uncleaned mount. There is sand and grease in the paint with little adhesion. Areas I cannot get paint removed I will need to use paint stripper.

    Question ... I have never used primer under black paint. The only Deere primer I am aware of is a buff color. Is this suitable for black paint are is there something else which will work better?
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    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabby_in_wis View Post
    Jeff, do you mean the middle of the shell bent downward?

    I just rolled the bare shell over so shell was resting on the chute base. Whacked it a few times with a small sledge hammer. Used a 48" steel ruler to check for straightness. Top front of shell is bent slightly downward also but was not noticeable so I left that alone.
    I was referring to the lower front edge. Yours looked bent on the chain side. Mine is bent on both sides. Probably from running it into curbs or landscaping rocks.
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    I typically see the shell bent in that area. I use a process from the auto body industry to straighten it. Do not know correct terminology but I use a 5 lb maul as a backing plate and a ball peen to strike the metal to bend it back into shape. That is pretty heavy gauge metal so don't be afraid to really give it a smack. I use the same procedure to straighten the flights on the auger. The ST I am restoring had a small crack in the radius I attempted to repair. Didn't do a good job welding. Breaking in a new MIG, I'll try to remember to get you a photo of that area.
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Gabby, the nice thing with black paint is that primer color doesn’t matter.
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    Didn't know if a light color (buff) would lighten the shade of paint. I guess if it appears light just give it another coat.

    Worked on stripping and cleaning parts till 4:00 this morning. You can do that if retired because "don't gotta git up and go to work". Just a little bit left to clean up on the mount.

    I need to pull the cover on the gear box to see if I need to replace it. That should be about the last thing I need to buy to finish the job.
    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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    Gabby, Don't know of you're aware of this or not, but when welding cracks, drill a small (1/8" dia) hole at the end(s) of the crack, then weld everything. The hole with weld in it prevents the crack from migrating.

    And some more of my "useless information": You 5 lb maul baking plate is technically called a "dolly". You can buy them or use whatcha got. I've even used a brick for thin gauge metal! Bob
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    Right you are Bob. Aware of drilling hole but I am a novice welder and still learning. Photo will show that.

    Dolly is also correct but wrong tool for the job. Metal in area is heavy gauge and I do not think a dolly is heavy duty enough. I believe I may have used a vice grip to bend material back into position before using "hammer & dolly" to "flatten" it.

    Not going to work at property today so will try to get some of these mount parts painted.

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    Yes, primer color will affect the shade of lighter colors (JD yellow), but not dark colors like black, brown, etc..
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    Took the cover off the gearbox late this afternoon.

    • This is the lowest amount of lube I have found in all the model 49's I have restored.
    • I cleaned up the gearbox and in process of painting.
    • The gear shafts do not seem to have any radial play.
    • There is some play in the gear lash but I have seen this before. No evidence of tooth wear. Will continue to use as is.
    • There is I would estimate somewhere .060-075 end play in the input shaft (pulley mounts on input shaft). This endplay is common due to stack up of part dimensions between two snap rings.
    • My experience is to accept this endplay. I had to rebuild a gearbox that was taken out by a lockup auger. Stack up of new parts and seals on this shaft was greater than the distance between snap ring grooves. I had to find a thinner seal.
    • Gasket seemed to be ok but for $6.91 I will replace it.

    Was going to get photo of cleaned up gear box showing where the endplay occurs but part is painted and needs drying time.
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    Currently in my garages/sheds: 1967 JD112 RF ... 1972 JD 112 SF ... 1973 140 H3 ... 1977 JD 300 ... 1979 JD 216
    1979 JD 314 ... 1979 JD 317K ... 1986 JD 318 ... 2004 JD X485 ... 2011 JD TX Gator ... 2012 JD X720 ... 19XX Zennoh 7001B
    2003 HD Heritage Softail

    Deerely Departed : 1965 JD 110 ... 1967 JD 110 ... 1978 JD 316K ... 1987 JD 175 ... 1987 JD 185 ... 1987 JD 332 w/ 44 loader
    1990 JD 318 ... 2007 JD X300 ... 2015 Z930M ZTR ... 19XX MF 7 ... 1970 Harley FLH ... 1979 Harley Superglide

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