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    317 part 3: First run and getting it tuned

    Part 1:https://www.wfmachines.com/forums/sh...lly-came-home!
    Part 2:https://www.wfmachines.com/forums/sh...engine-rebuild

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LACObIt9uA

    It runs! Not well, but it runs! Gotta sort out an issue with the carb and fix an oil leak on the remote filter line, but it runs. Builds good hydro pressure, moves, and the only leak seems to be the filter line. I think I just might have myself a good worker!

    Driveshaft is quiet, the steering seems responsive-ish, the hydraulics should work, I think this 317 instead of the other nicer one was the better choice.
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    Congrats on making progress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sublime68charger View Post
    Congrats on making progress!
    It feels so good finally getting something running. Now to get Larry running. I still need to figure out his issue, it seems like the more I tried to start him the worse he got, until the popping stopped.
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    I wont mention then that this weekend I got the 69 140 out of winter storage and used it to move some trailers around the yard. I could have used my ATV's but the itch to drive the 140 got to me and and so I got that scratched!

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    Ugh. Engine decided it had enough and the gasket for the oil filter adapter blew out. Leaking oil like mad. The oil sentry does work, and the engine builds enough oil pressure.
    Both hydro relief valves blew out simultaneously, I had the release buttons pressed down and was trying to test out if the hydraulics worked...
    My amp meter works, and I got the battery tie down in...
    Also now the engine is bone dry. Carb is totally blocked up, no fuel getting to anything. No running for now.
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    well I'm glad im not the only one in the 1 step forward then 2 steps backwards club,
    but you may have taken like 5-10 and then jumped of the cliff on the last backwards step's!

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    You are not the first to have a bad encounter with the KT17 or Magnum oil filter adapter/blank plate gasket. There are two ways to have a bad leak develop there. The gasket is narrow and prone to blow out as described in this thread: https://www.wfmachines.com/forums/sh...ght=kt17+blank. Cleaning both surfaces and using some gasket adhesive seems to solve the blow-out problem. The other issue is that there is a ridge on the oil filter adapter or blank plate. The cast ridge is likely there to "bite" the gasket and prevent blow-out. However, over-tightening the mounting bolts will have the ridge cut the gasket. The Magnum service manual lists multiple torque values for the mounting bolts, but in my experience the 125 in-lb torque works well.
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    JD 400's, 420's, 425, 317's, 318's, 300, 112's, 110's; Brantly backhoe and loader on 400; 30 and 33 tillers; 49 and 50 blowers; 43, 54 and 56 blades; mower decks, cabs, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdalchemist View Post
    You are not the first to have a bad encounter with the KT17 or Magnum oil filter adapter/blank plate gasket. There are two ways to have a bad leak develop there. The gasket is narrow and prone to blow out as described in this thread: https://www.wfmachines.com/forums/sh...ght=kt17+blank. Cleaning both surfaces and using some gasket adhesive seems to solve the blow-out problem. The other issue is that there is a ridge on the oil filter adapter or blank plate. The cast ridge is likely there to "bite" the gasket and prevent blow-out. However, over-tightening the mounting bolts will have the ridge cut the gasket. The Magnum service manual lists multiple torque values for the mounting bolts, but in my experience the 125 in-lb torque works well.
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    Huh. Did not know that. I guess I'll get another gasket and use gasket adhesive, then. Would doubling up on gaskets help, or just make the problem, worse?
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    Pulled the motor out of the 317... Turns out I had a mishap with my oil filter and need another gasket. It cut the gasket and blew out the top. Guess that for the cost of it I'm running the stuck free wheel valves out of my 300 instead of rebuilding the ones in it.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXQDSWyOn3I

    Needs an adjustable carb... It's flooding the intake. After literally just draining the old gas out, it's already just a bit better off. It ran for a whole minute, just purring away, then I tried to move the tractor and it stalled with 0 power.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60, Serial 1328

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