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I'm a newcomer to this website. I checked out the forum before registering and realized there are several people on this that knows their stuff about restoration. I have a 1971 140 H1 (34631M) that I'm in the process of putting back together. I pulled the engine, honed the cylinder wall, put a new piston and rings in, etc. I have a feeling the engine will be like new. The old piston rings were allowing oil to seep up into the cylinder and it had blown the gasket letting oil seep out. Whomever owned this mower in the past did a terrible job on repairs. The stator was burnt and the wiring had a lot of electrical tape on it. I knew someone that was able to rewind the stator rather than spending a fortune at JD. I am going to be able to salvage the main wiring harness, but there needs to be a lot of attention where connections are made (coil, 10amp regulator, capacitor, etc.) And that's where I am now. I have a service manual and an operator's manual that I ordered last year. Neither of these have good pictures as to the correct ways to route the wires and mount the capacitor for example. I need a few close-up pictures of the left side of the engine if anybody has any. There were some pictures on the forum the other day when I was browsing, but not the ones I needed. Of course I have referred to the wiring diagram in my service manual and can see what needs to be connected where, I just need to see a good example from someone whose got it all mounted and routed correctly around the engine. Thanks to anyone that can help me. There will be pictures to come. I'm probably going to paint it in the next year or two. I have several more questions, but will reserve those for now.
 

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Mike,

Those are good pictures. That really helps. Particularly the one with that shows the coil and regulator. Your regulator looks identical to the one that was on mine until I bought the new one. Something that helps me in the other picture is seeing that you don't have a fuel pump mounted on the engine. Mine had one when I got it and I plan on not putting it back on unless I see it is needed. It clearly states in the manual that the fuel tank is mounted above the engine so it's gravity flow and does not need a fuel pump. Thanks again for the pictures. I will probably take some pictures of my engine in the condition it's in now and try to get some feedback. I really like this forum.

Ryan
 

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Hey Chris,

I think I just need to have you over...Sooner or later you won't be able to stand it anymore and 10 minutes later it will be clean...


No problem, Ryan. Glad to help.

(Message edited by dlnw98 on November 08, 2005)
 

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Mike,

As you can see from the picture above I still need to mount the governor arm, coil, carb, and make wire connections. I'll probably end up moving the capacitor over with the coil as you did because the wire is not long enough. I thought the green clip was to hold the contact wire or PTO wire in place. The parts catalog showed a picture of a clip and I ordered and this is what I got. I can't see how it helps hold any of the wires unless I've got it mounted incorrectly. Any suggestions? It sticks out like a sore thumb. Of course I will eventually be painting the engine black. If you have any suggestions on anything else let me know.

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Ryan,
I believe that clip is a Kohler specified part. On both of my 140s ('71 & '73), It is mounted on the lower right bolt of the cam cover and guides the hot lead to the points. It also has an inch and a half long piece of anti chaff material protecting the wire.
Where you,ve located it on the points cover, mine have a bent wire guide that supports the lead for the PTO. I think this is specified by Deere.
Lots of little things get deleted and added over the years.
 

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Thanks Mark, that really helps. I'll try that. There is a bad black and white picture in either my service manual or operator's manual that shows the bent wire guide you are referring to. Have I overlooked it in the parts manual. Where can I find it? Also, do you know if I will be able to order the anti chaff material for the clip from John Deere? Thanks again for this info.

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Ryan,

Part number for the PT0 wire clip is M46763. It mounts on the lower screw of the breaker points cover. I believe the clip you have mounts on the lower right hand bolt of the cam shaft gear cover. I believe it is used to secure the coil to breaker points wire. My clips originally came with a rubberized coating. I purchased a liquid rubber coating from the Eastwood Co.

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Mike or Sam,

Do either of you have a picture of the wire clip that I could show the JD dealership so I can order it? I went back and checked which part number I gave them when I ordered the clip in the past and it was the same number Sam provided (M46763). And with that part number I received the green clip that's in my picture above. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

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Ryan, If you look in JDParts the clip is in the blowup for the PTO. Part # M68425. It has been substituted a few times so the new one may not be the same as the original. It would be easy to bend one up.
Sam, You have more patience than I do. It must be tough getting that clip and screw on the lower part of the points cover.
 

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Thanks Mark, I've seen that clip with the PTO picture. It never occurred to me that was the clip I needed and I've noticed it a hundred times. The clip I had ordered was from the blowup of the points cover. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Well I checked with my local JD dealership and the clip I need (part # M68425) is obsolete. I guess I'll have to fabricate one. Does anyone have a picture of it so I'll have something to go by? Thanks.

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John Deere 160 i have had neutral safety switch floating in frame hooked up to nothing. was wondering if someone had pictures of where it mounts. im trying to put it back to original for safety. There is a bung in top of transmission PO must have put in i just dont know if this is where switch is suppose to thread in. Pictures appreciated.
 
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