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Hi all.

Haven't had to tinker much with my PTO, not sure where to start. Noticed on my second to last mowing session that my engine felt like it had something pulling it down, not nearly as much power as usual, near the end of the mow. Tractor ended up stalling out and I saw a puff of smoke come from the front of the tractor as I was sitting. Not exactly sure where it came from, but seemed to be from the front grill area. By the time I got out of the seat to check there was no smoke. Definitely a hot, almost kind of like hot solder smell. I tried to restart the tractor, maybe within a minute of it stalling, and it was completely dead. I pushed it into my garage, tried the ignition, and it fired right up. PTO at this point was disengaged (switch off). Tractor seemed to run fine.

A week later I go out to mow, fire up the tractor, running strong, engage the PTO, engine drags a bit but nothing terrible, I start to cut. Maybe 5 minutes into the mow the engine really starts to drag, then stalls. I immediately tried to restart, nothing. Starter doesn't even engage. Sitting there I hear an audible "click", I try the ignition again, and the engine starts. I reingage the PTO, and immediately notice a hot, almost plastic-y smell. About a minute later, engine dies. I do the same thing, let it sit, hear a "click" after 30-60 seconds, starts up, engage PTO and blades, stalls out about a minute later.

I do use a PointSaver, and it seemed like the "click" I hear might be coming from that, almost like something being reset, as if there was circuit protection or something.

At that point I push mowed what was left of the yard, and let the tractor sit for about an hour. It started right up, and ran strong with no PTO and mower deck engaged.

My knee jerk reaction was to locate another PTO and swap it out to see if the same thing happens, but they aren't cheap. All things considered (tractor runs strong with no PTO engaged, funny smell when engaged, puff of smoke at the end of my last cut) I'm assuming the PTO might have croaked. Just not sure where to start troubleshooting short of replacing the PTO to maybe see if that is the problem.

Any and all guidance is much appreciated.

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Jim, you are describing the classic symptoms of a shorted, over heated clutch coil. The click you hear is probably a circuit breaker resetting after doing it's job protecting the wiring from the over load. In most cases you can just replace the coil, expensive, but less than a new clutch assembly. Could be something else, but the clutch is the main suspect.

Do you have a service manual for the 314? If so, it will walk you through the R&R and test procedures for the clutch. You will have to identify which clutch brand is on the tractor before getting any part. Many tractors of that era came with a "Warner" clutch assembly. Some will have an "Ogura" brand. Parts are not interchangeable between the two. You could try your luck in the Classified section here to find a good used one.

If you are mechanically inclined, it is a relatively easy task as long as you know the dos and don'ts.
You could do a search here to get a little experience from other posts to get an idea of what is to be done. Let us know if you need help.

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Thanks for the quick reply and insight Tom. I do have a service manual for the 314 somewhere, I'll dig it out and read through the clutch test and replacement procedures. It really helps to have your immediate feedback that it may in fact be the PTO clutch. I hate going down the wrong, expensive road.

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If you haven't found the issue yet replace the clutch coil. I had the exact issue about a yr ago. Make sure the wire is not pinched when mounting the coil on the block.
 

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Jim,
Classic symptoms of a bad pto coil. They are about 110.00 and IMO worth putting a new one on. The used ones you will find are just as old as the one you burnt up. Bite the bullet and order from Deere.

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Taking a new job and other life events kept me from tearing into this until last weekend. Removed the entire assembly with no problem. Ogura Clutch coil is definitely a mess. I'll buy new from JD.

Question now is, what am I looking for in terms of potentialy replacing the clutch itself? I don't know what I am really looking for, but it isn't in bad condition as best I can tell. I can snap some pics later this weekend.

What else should I consider replacing while I have this thing apart?

Are there different Deere pn# for the Ogura coils on the 300 series? Specifically the 314?

Thanks for the advice all.
 

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As long as the clutch disc in ok then all you NEED to replace is the coil. The part that bolts to the block. Yes there is a different part number for the Borg Warner and the ogura coil. Part number for the ogura coil is AM38624. List price from John Deere is 120.96. They will probably have to order it. GOOD LUCK! Oh yeah get the new springs and nuts as well.
 

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Check the bearing as long as you have it out. I think they are 25.00 or so. For me it was worth it to replace it at the same time. Didn't want it to go out and tear up a new coil. Thats 30 years old too and may have took some heat from the coil.

Dom
 
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