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Hi Everyone,
I'm new here with this being my first post please forgive me if this is in the wrong location within the forums. I'm nearing the end of a Honda repower in my JD 318. I had the B series Onan that I finally had to call it quits on. I picked up a Honda GX 630 from repower specialists. I got almost everything put back together but in placing the side panels back on, the exhaust pipe does not clear through the hole where the old Onan fit through. I called repower to ask them and they said it should fit. I sent them pictures of the exhaust thinking maybe they sent me the wrong one and they said it was the correct one for the 318. Has anyone else ran into this problem? The exhaust pipe is too low by about half the diameter of the pipe to clear through the opening. Has anyone else ran into this and if so what did you do to address it? I really don't want to cut out the side panel as I'm not that good at sheet metal, but fear I may have to.
 

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DO NOT cut the tractor!!!! If you're gonna hack something, hack the muffler.....

Absolutely step one is (as mentioned previously) to verify if you're supposed to have risers under the engine, and if so make sure they're present and accounted for.

I did a kit repower with a Briggs (I know yours is different, but bear with me...), and had the same issue, the pipe doesn't line up with the hole. I checked with the hive mind, which lead me to many forums including this one. Most folks say that this lines up fine, and a few say it does not line up fine... Mine did not line up fine. I saw others were able to call and get a new pipe sent. So I called to where I got my engine from, and they acted like I was nutz. But I wasn't. It didn't fit, and I was persistent that it did not fit. Eventually (well, two days later, but a couple of calls and a plethora of emails later) I got a tracking number for a new pipe. It was the same as the old pipe, except that the pipe was cut off (quite likely chewed off by a dull beaver), and then welded back at an angle. (Quite likely with a gas/gasless welder loaded with flux core but still wired for MIG). Had I known that this is what I'd get.... I'd have done it myself and not really cared about wasting five minutes of my life, instead of probably half an hour total time in emailing and whatnot... But it doesn't leak and they bullzeyed the dead center of that hole so I kept it. Pretty good luck for being clear across the country... Bottom line, I don't know what's up and I don't know why, but they'd seen it before. I've found enough pictures of the Briggs conversion to be sure in this. My muffler was not a defect, they MADE a part that fit, and they knew exactly what it was going to take.

If yours is part of a kit, I would call and see what they say (sounds like you have), I'd call again to pester just to be sure. And if they offer you resolution, take it. If not, it's as easy (probably easier) to hack the muffler as it is to make a clean modification to the side panel...
 

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Firewall insulation is still important. Take a look and see if the shroud and the firewall opening line up. I put some spacers on the engine mounts to raise up my 316 Vanguard repower. The muffler came in contact with the body so I could not raise it any higher.
 

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I like the idea of using risers as a possibility, that would be the quickest fix. The trick with the Honda repower is that you have to be careful of the cylinder head covers and the dipstick hitting the hood. I already had to swap out one of the cylinder head covers to avoid having to notch the hood and side panel for the oil filler cap. I may have just enough room though and will give it a try this weekend when I have some more time. The company I bought the kit from did offer to modify my muffler but I would have to ship it out to them all the way in Oregon and then wait to get it back (I'm in Massachusetts). I'm also a little nervous that they might adjust it too much or in some other way that it might just make it worse than if I slabbed off the side of the muffler and MIG welded up a new end plate myself. I'm 98% complete on this project and am itching to use my JD again. Plus the wife has been after me to cut the lawn and borrowing my Dad's 140 is getting a little tiresome to drag it across town. Thanks for the info everyone I was hoping for an easy fix but then again if there was one what else would I do with all my free time if I wasn't tinkering out in the garage.
 

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Any pictures of your Honda repower? Been a long time since I've seen a Honda used. Would be interested in what the kit entailed. Thanks
 

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Here are a few pictures of the project so far. After my son helped me pull the Onan out we steam cleaned it, then masked, repainted and began reassembly. Not finished yet as I have the seat deck and decals left to go on this weekend.
 

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WOW!

Your helper looks very determined to remove that engine just so. Shows both of your attention to detail. Keep the pictures coming.
 

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micheal's 318 repower

Mike, I just got done restoring a 420 with a Honda gx630 repower. I bought the engine and kit from repower specialists, and I will be posting a review this winter with pictures. all I can say for now, there is a lot more cons then pros. they are not a good company to deal with. one bad thing is they lie worse then Donald trump and do not keep to their word. they always say you must not of done it right. well its done, and right, looks brand new, and not hacked up. they are very unprofessional. and never again. should of stayed with sew.
 

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WOW!! That Honda does look good in there.

When I look at the pictures I am torn. On one hand the black looks REALLY cool....... but at the same time, I am a purist and I hate it. The paint you used on the frame...... may just be the light but it reminds me of the rattle can engine paint that has ceramic in it......... kind of has that sparkle......

Good job though. Love to see the older tractors fixed up for 20+ more years of good use.

Jared
 

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they are not a good company to deal with. one bad thing is they lie worse then Donald trump and do not keep to their word. they always say you must not of done it right. well its done, and right, looks brand new, and not hacked up. they are very unprofessional. and never again. should of stayed with sew.

Well it they could be worse......

You could have called them looking for a new engine just like the one you have, and not a repower. They could have told you, "If you like the engine you have, you can keep the engine you have!"
Then you find out they don't actually mean the same model of engine.... you can only replace it with a motor that, well, wasn't your first choice. But hey, it's still a motor right.... ??


Then they could have said, "Our engine will lower your fuel economy! You won't spend as much money on gasoline!"
Well, you think... it's still not the engine I wanted... but at least it will save money, right!?
Then you find out it doesn't get better fuel economy..... it gets worse..... MUCH worse....


Then they could have said, "If you spend at least $XXXX dollars with us, we won't charge you shipping or tax!"
Then you find out that the engine costs $1 less than said limit, and not only do you have to pay the tax, you find out they are shipping out of a state that makes you pay tax on internet and over the phone purchases, and their local tax rate is nearly twice what your local sales tax rate is. Oh, and you didn't qualify for free shipping either.....


Then...... after you pay all that money, and actually get the shipment, you hurry to open the box only to find a big empty box of nothing. Now, you paid the bill, were lied to, still don't have a motor, and would have been better off if you never called them in the first place. Oh, and when you call the company about ripping you off, you find out that everyone who worked there, according to the employee handbook, was to never purchase from within the company, they were free and encouraged to buy outside of it. Then you find out that the guy who started the company ran up a bunch of debt and left the company broke, all the workers without a job and no hope for the future.... and you are just SOL getting a refund.


Don't worry though. I hear some rich guy from New York wants to buy the company and turn it around....

:usa::usa::usa:



I would have seen it coming during the first phone conversation though.... just like I see through, and call out, BS in real life.
 
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