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Red ink pen is pointing at steering link nut. in this area I replaced the washer with a THIN stainless washer; and ground off excess bolt threads, and ground 1/8'' off the self locking nut, ''pinch type''; this yielded a total of 3/8'' clearance at the tightest spot during steering operation. nut is still self locking. J.Z.M.
 

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Did you have any issue with clearing the hydro cooler? Did you machine the transmission end yoke to fit the fan on it?
 
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In the future, please hit your "Enter" key before and after each image, and between the image and any text. Hitting the "Enter" key a couple of times also puts a nice space between each image. Failure to hit your "Enter" key will cause each member here to scroll left to right just see the whole thread. Thanks.
 

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James,

Looking good. On the sleeve area, it looks like it is keyed to the half-shafts and then additionally threaded lock nuts (x2). Is this correct? No welds on either yoke end????

With this setup you didn't notice any additional vibration or flexing of the shaft under load?

If you had reversed the shaft lengths so the longer shaft was on the front yoke would you have cleared the steering linkage with the coupler sleeve without having to modify the steering link nut?

Looks awesome, nice job. Yes please post a BOM when you get an opportunity.
 

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No sweat. I know posting pictures here is sort of....different. Most of us old-timers are used to it by now, but it does throw our newer members off. This software is old and doesn't conform to the newer software procedures out there that most new members are used to.
 

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the only welding required is to install the fan and a spot weld at each key to hold them in place so they don't move around during assy. and dis assy. every joint has 2 set screws. one on the woodruff key and one on the side of the yoke. on the collar there is only one set screw on each shaft. I saw no need for two. I ran out of set screws and had to make my own at pump to yoke connection. there is no vibration what so ever!!! installed and removed 4x. measured run out with dial indicator at collar. the worst I ever got was .005! where I placed the collar is the ONLY place this will work. I used medium strength locktite on each set screw on final assy. put anti-seaze inside collar, so as not to rust. front shaft is 5 1/4''long, rear shaft is 10 3/4''long. each piece of key stock at collar is 2 1/4'' long. you can now pull the motor or the hydro without fighting the drive shaft. you can now pull the drive shaft with out pulling the motor or rear end. I can remove the front 1/2 of the shaft in 15 min. loosen the 2 collar set screws, use a WOODEN dowl rod 1''x12'' tap collar all the way forward. impact the four fly-wheel bolts out one at a time at the 9 oclock position. then drop that section down toward left. side of frame. to remove the rear half of shaft you remove collar as stated earlier, then remove seat pan. then remove the two set screws at pump shaft. tap rear half forward, and lift out. easy-peasy!!! be sure and set your yokes like the ones in the photos so the grease zerts will be accessible from under the tractor. I saw no need to cross drill the front yoke at crank stub, since its only purpose was to stop shaft drift. you now have set screws to do that. I saw no need to weld the yokes to the shaft since they are now 1/4''keyed and double set screwed. JD took the cheap and quick way out and made it where it was non serviceable. I will put my shaft up against their $900 one in strength, serviceability, removeability, cost and any thing else you can think of. will post part #s shortly. I need a coffee break. back hurts from sitting in this chair to much. I sure hope this is going to help all you other 400 owners out. no longer will be at the mercy of JD or evil-bay. later, J.Z.M.
 

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Very nice build. The great thing is that it could be done with minimal tools and requires no special machinery or knowledge to build one. I don't think the set screw on the hydro end would be required since those were always just a slip fit anyway. Can you get away with only using 1 set screw at each yoke or does the shaft not fit tight enough?
 
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NO problem GREGG, folks here have been helping me out since I got this 400 money-pit. time to return the favor. there is an old song by JOHN PRINE titled, ''There's a Hole in Daddy's Arm Where All the Money Goes'' in my case there's a hole in daddy's garage where all the money goes. ha. PARTS LIST 1/4'' key stock 12'' long. $2.00? I all ready had some. I got the shaft coupler from SURPLUS CENTER.COM, part# 1-1563-E, cost $10.00. I got the following parts from BAILEYNET.COM, one 3/4''x3/4'' yoke part# 133-014, cost $27.00. next you will need TWO, 1''x1'' yokes, part# 133-016, cost 27.00 each. next you need one 3' length of 1'' keyed shaft, part# 136-704. cost $30.00. the locktight and anti sieze I already had. and that's it for parts. the reason you have to buy TWO 1'' yoke assy's is because you have to take one and break it apart along with the 3/4'' and build you a 1''x3/4'' yoke assy. for the shaft to pump fitment. you will end up with two rear assy's. cant be helped. but now you have an extra rear yoke assy. for a spare or to sell or God forbid, your OTHER 400 ha,ha. these yoke assy's are the 1000 spicer series type, and are forged units. replacement u-joints abound. they are also the high angle type which allows easy access to the grease fitting, and ease of disassembly and assembly because of the long arms which give ample access. when you build your new shaft, make SURE you don't knick it or get welding spatter on it. be careful you don't knick shaft when you install it. you want to be able to slide the collar in the future. you will need a flat hand file to dress the key stock as needed, where needed. I had to use a die grinder with a sandpaper shaft to lightly dress out the inside of the collar. don't take to much off, just test fit over and over till you are happy with it. its no problem. also spot weld those two key stock pieces where I did, down in the valley, so as to not have interference with collar slide in any direction. the wooden dowl is a must, for safe, easy installment on tractor!! AKA broom handle will work also. don't let wife see this. if you booger up a shaft to bad, no sweat, you've got several feet left over. the only equipment I used to build this was a phneumatic die grinder, a mig welder, 4 1/2'' side grinder with cut off disk, various small flat files, measuring tools, black and silver Sharpie pens, a scribe, masking tape. etc. these are the measurements I used. they allow about 1/8'' clearance where the two shafts meet face to face inside the collar. you MUST have SOME clearance here in order to fold them together or take them apart. also, don't weld fan on backwards, no need to weld the snot out of it also. a 3/4'' bead 180 degree apart is plenty. now before someone harps about not welding the yokes to the shaft; let me remind you that a drive shaft is like a chain. it is only as strong as its weakest link. look where the yoke meets the pump, one little 3/4'' shaft and a pueny woodruff key. remember, if you do weld you need to do it in the tractor with a dial indicator, or in a lathe with a dial indicator so as not to create to much run out. I found the shaft to yoke fit a GOOD snug fit. no problems what so ever. the worst part of this build was I did not know before hand if this could be pulled off, clearance and placement issues and so forth. alas, it can be done! the best and most enjoyable part about this job was I got to ''STICK IT TO THE MAN''...the GREEN MAN. teach him to price me a non serviceable, throw-away shaft for $816.00 plus 9% sales tax. GO NAVY!! later J.Z.M.
 

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also, when you tap the shaft into the yokes only use a hard rubber or plastic face hammer. brass will marr your shaft and or swell the end on the first blow. also, when getting your initial collar fit it is critical that you keep your pieces clean, freequent use of a blow nozzle is a must! once you think its pretty close, I found that putting some lubricant in there and working the collar back and forth by hand, then wipe clean. then repeat this several times as needed helps the surface contact seat up smoothly and become accustomed to each other. I used trans fluid for this. also, mark the collar F and R. DO NOT SWITCH ENDS AROUND during this process or after you are finished. each side will be married. they wont be into ''SWINGING.'' lastly, make sure the collar will slide all the way forward onto front shaft, using same process. this is the direction you will slide it every time you disconnect it. take your time and every thing will come out fine. I accomplished every thing on my first attempt, over all that is. also, use anti spatter on surrounding areas when welding. don't want no spatter on that shaft. I am looking forward to you folks doing this build. I am SURE some of you are going to come up with some good tips and techniques. I have also come up with a fan replacement plan for those in DIER NEED. but it would require a lathe; the other draw-back is it is thin aluminum. you would have to be gentle on shaft install and removal. other wise I found and got the parts, and the HOW-TO in my head. that is what I was originally was gonna do because my fan was mangeled by a PO. then I saw I needed a lathe to do it. so I spent 3 hours bringing the one you see posted back to life. use to be an auto body repairman at one time, that helped out some. I will try and answer any questions. later, J.Z.M.
 

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JZM,
Admire your innovative answer to a common problem. your posted pics and detailed procedure is appreciated. Do you intend to offer these after a shake down of extended use hours? 400s are a limited market, but the system may appeal to other series owners. Convenience and JD comparison costs are very appealing. David
 

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DAVID, no because, if any one can read a tape measure and just do a spot weld can do this. I was initially going to build a one piece, using the keyed shaft also. but for $10 more for the collar I decided to give this a try. since I am building this tractor for myself, and to keep for the rest of my life. and since I HAD to have a drive shaft one way or the other, I figured it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. I also have came up with a way to take that front and back wobble out of the front axle at the pivot point. this little mod. cost $3!!! it will work on the 400, 420, 430. possibly others also. don't know if my idea has been done here before or not. if not, it is gonna generate some BUZZ! I will post it next in a week or so. I want to leave some room inbetween threads to answer questions; if any. have done many other 400 improvement mods with pics. learning how to post the pics has been my hold up. its ON NOW!! so keep your eye out for the thread, with the spinning head. I really appreciate all the kind comments from every one. later, J.Z.M.
 
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