420, 3pt equipment

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DieselDood

Discussion Starter · 6 mo ago

So I have a 420 with a cab, 50" mower and 46 Blower.
Arriving today is my 3pt Hitch.

First plan is to get a quick hitch, then build a weight bracket for it and find some suitcase weights.
Second is a rear Blade.
3rd is rear Pallet Forks. Even though I won't be able to lift it high, I will be able to move stuff around my yard.
4th, rear scoop. I have some light dirt work, and can't afford a FEL for the 420. It may take me a bit, but I really think this will end up one of my fav tools.
Along the line I have the big Backpack looking MCS that I plan to convert to a 3pt and stand alone motor.

To go with all the 3pt "toys" I plan to get rear hydraulics and a hydraulic top link.

What other attachments have you guys ran on your 318/420's that you would recommend?

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chuckv

· #2 · 6 mo ago

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DD,

Pallet forks on a rear 3-pt are very handy for moving stuff...carrying weight low when moving is a safe way to use the advantage of a pallet, and it does not block your view like a FEL might. Here is a shot or two of the forks in use when I first got them to fit my limited Cat 1 on the X495 I once had...

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chuckv

· #3 · 6 mo ago

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As to other attachments on the 318 through 430 class tractors, a favorite would be the center grader blade...the one we used was made in my shop with mostly hand tools from an old 42 inch front blade from a lawn tractor then widened...

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The threads here of the build have lost their pictures -- but I saved them as PDF files at the time...see the attachments below.

Chuck

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chuckv

· #4 · 6 mo ago (Edited)

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I also prefer a front bucket over a rear scoop...the Johnny bucket SR was ideal for the 322 on our Oregon property. By having a limited lift attachment, I was much less concerned about my wife tipping the tractor over on our slopes... We moved a lot of material with this bucket (wood chips, firewood, gravel, bricks, statues...) Yes, it can't load into a truck or trailer like an FEL might, but it is less costly and attaches/removes quite easily.

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Here it is on a small furniture dolly next to my tiller along side the tractor...

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DieselDood

Discussion Starter · #5 · 6 mo ago

Where did you get the limited front bucket? While that does look appealing, I suspect that cost may prohibit that purchase. I can get the rear scoop for $350.

BUT... If I got creative I could probably build the front bucket like that. I do have a bucket about that size that I'm trying to sell, but no one has wanted yet.

My use for the bucket will be mild dirt work really. A couple years ago I got a pile of dirt to work on some drainage on the back side of my house. Well... it's been a couple years and I need to move that dirt now... lol You can see how quickly I'm jumping on doing it by hand. I suspect a larger front bucket like that wouldn't cut as well, but would be nice for dumping and smoothing.

tmac58star

· #6 · 6 mo ago

The rear scoops are useful, too. Get your neck limbered up before you use it tho...takes a while to get good at lining it up on the pile just right. That said, I wouldn't take anything for my Johnny Bucket Sr. on my 430.

DieselDood

Discussion Starter · #7 · 6 mo ago

chuckv said:
DD,

Pallet forks on a rear 3-pt are very handy for moving stuff...carrying weight low when moving is a safe way to use the advantage of a pallet, and it does not block your view like a FEL might. Here is a shot or two of the forks in use when I first got them to fit my limited Cat 1 on the X495 I once had...

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Chuck

Also, which rear forks are these?

chuckv

· #8 · 6 mo ago

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DD,

At one time I had two of the Johnny Bucket SR attachments -- the first one was serial number 1001 and was the first that the company made for an open frame tractor like the 318 and my 322. It was slightly larger than the production ones and could not be shipped UPS freight, so they shrunk the height just a bit. The second (used) one I got was for just $350 but that was quite a number of years ago...and got sold with the 1992 318 that passed though my herd. Here are some images so you can compare the bucket size...

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The pallet forks were from Al Z Welding, as was the load lifter for the limited Cat 1 hitch.

You might be able to use the bucket you have now to then fabricate a simple front mounted frame that provides a limited lift (like a front blade...) and add the side mounted dump rams.

Chuck

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DieselDood

Discussion Starter · #9 · 6 mo ago

chuckv said:
DD,

At one time I had two of the Johnny Bucket SR attachments -- the first one was serial number 1001 and was the first that the company made for an open frame tractor like the 318 and my 322. It was slightly larger than the production ones and could not be shipped UPS freight, so they shrunk the height just a bit. The second (used) one I got was for just $350 but that was quite a number of years ago...and got sold with the 1992 318 that passed though my herd. Here are some images so you can compare the bucket size...
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The pallet forks were from Al Z Welding, as was the load lifter for the limited Cat 1 hitch.

You might be able to use the bucket you have not to then fabricate a simple front mounted frame that provides a limited lift (like a front blade...) and add the side mounted dump rams.

Chuck

That's not a bad idea. If I could find a 420 Quick Hitch, just build a QH bracket, then I'd have the lift portion pretty easy. The dumping, I'm not sure how that would work out. Where was it hinged?

mjydrafter

· #10 · 6 mo ago

If you spot a used set of the Al Z Welding pallet forks, grab 'em quick. I missed a set this summer by a day...

DieselDood

Discussion Starter · #11 · 6 mo ago

mjydrafter said:
If you spot a used set of the Al Z Welding pallet forks, grab 'em quick. I missed a set this summer by a day...

I just was looking them up. Sadly, he was local to me, but has passed away!

Sounds like someone could have a good market if they built them for reasonable!

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chuckv

· #12 · 6 mo ago

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Here are some close ups of the construction -- the curl rams are mounted to the "elbow" ends of the fork shaped lift frame and have their other ends on the bucket near the front edge. Not seen is the bucket rotation hinge points that are just below the frame... These rams are double acting, so you have positive force for each direction of curl. The other large ram is for the lift (at the center of the frame) and as you said works like the quick hitch lift...I had the lift cylinder disconnected from the front mount point and the hose off for a service replacement of a fitting in these images.

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chuckv

· #13 · 6 mo ago

One more with the front lift cylinder fully connected up...and bucket at full dump curl.

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DieselDood

Discussion Starter · #14 · 6 mo ago

Oh I see! They lift and lower the bucket like you would a plow, but dumping you would raise it all the way up and the bucket is actually on a pivot and it dumps by pivoting!

interesting!

tmac58star

· #15 · 6 mo ago

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Here's a couple of shots of a JB Sr. on my 430...which requires an extender due to the long nose, your 420 won't require one. Just some more visual reference/eye candy. Mine has a small winch mounted on it too.

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JD54Plow

· #16 · 6 mo ago

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This is my plow conversion system from Marric Products on my new to me 318. It takes the existing 54 JD plow and converts it into a lifting, curling, dumping mini loader. The moldboard converts into the bucket by bolting on the bottom plate and side wings. The nice thing about this system is the bucket can be swapped out for other attachments by removing the bottom pin. The other picture is the trash can bracket attachment.

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