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Any Tips for Installing a Hydro Lift Kit in a 210?

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My question is, This was installed on a 445 tractor for use with the 2 stage snowblower. It appears OEM Deere (even the bolts on the black part). This thing mounts exactly up to the 445 factory hitch plate and the holes on the black brackets are punched, no drilled, so again, it looks very "Deere" to me. I would like to know what this thing is and what it fits.
Thanks in advance!



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Lately, the cap on the engine oil filler tube of my 445 has been popping off when I am mowing, and oil sprays on my side screen. I'm unclear why there is increased pressure in the engine causing this phenomenon. Do any of you John Deere wizards have an answer.
Gerry it is a front weight bracket from a JD CUT (like a 790) and they had to be removed if the tractor if it had a loader. Guys used to buy them from dealers for garden tractors.

David nothing might be wrong with the engine but it might just be the cap is worn out. I would try a new oil cap first. Roger
Howdy all,

I will be installing a hydro lift kit in my 78 JD210 in about 3 weeks. I am currently painting all the pieces and have replaced the hose that goes between the pump and the control valve. The other 2 pressure hoses to the ram look like their in good shape. Looking for advice from people who have done this conversion. Nothing like experience right?
I have already, just for kicks, removed the manual lift handle. I heard that it can be a PIA. I reinstalled it as I am using the tractor for mowing now. Came off no problem, just like the installation manual instructed me to. I have already installed the pulley on the flywheel as well. The reason I am installing the lift kit is that I will be using the 210 with a 37A this winter. I also have a Model 31 Tiller too.

Thanks in advance!

Hec
Hector
i just installed one on my 214 if you follow the instructions you should have no problems. If you need the instructions let me know. I am about a hour away from you in Ia mabe we will have to meet up sometime i go to the cities. ty Glen
Glen,

I do have the instructions looks pretty straight forward. I am missing two pieces of the kit though. One is the part that bolts to the console and pushes the hoses down. It's called a "hose guide" in the manual. The other is a rectangular piece of steel with a hole in the center. It's called a "spacer". It mounts between the pump base and engine mount. The guy who sold me the kit also has a 212 with hydraulics and he is missing the same two parts. I guess ya don't need them. If you have them shoot me an email with dimensions if you can. I would sure appreciate it. Maybe we can have a brew sometime,next time your in the area. Bring your tools in three weeks! Ha ha

Hec
Hector, the hose guide is 1/8" X 2" X 4 1/4". The hose slot is 1 1/8" X 3/4". Adjustment slot is 9/32" X 1 1/2".

The pump bracket clamp is 1/8" X 1" X 2" with a 3/8" centered hole. Hope this helps,


Larry
Larry,

I drew this up on AutoCAD tonight. I guessed that the top of the slot is 1/4" from the top of the hose guide. Thanks a million for the dimensions! Time to fab some up! One question regarding the part you called pump bracket clamp. Does it go on top of the pump bracket against the head of the bolt? Or does it get sandwiched between the pump bracket and the engine mount?

Hec
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Hector, John Deere parts shows it under the bracket and the instructions say on top. Looks like it goes on top to me, but I'll check my other tractor and let you know.

Larry
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I am finishing one up too. I didn't get the hose guide with mine. Have been looking on ebay hoping one will turn up but no luck. I will finish it off next day or so. The biggest pain was removing the manual lift lever but got it out using a pretty big pipe wrench that was about two ft. long.


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Larry,

That's what is confusing me. JD parts says one thing and manual says another. Let me know how yours is.

Dave,

Install looks great! I would like to know how you made the notch in the left engine cover. Pictures? Do you have the rectangular part on yours? If so, where did you install it?

Thanks all!

Hec
Hector go to WFM files,com, look up hydraulic lift installation with template down load it and go from there.I'll repost when I find out about the clamp.

Larry
Hector, my 216 has the rectangular piece under the pump mount with a fender washer over the hole. Don't know if that is the correct installation, but has worked for the several years I've owned it.

Larry
Hector, if you decide to fab up a few extra hose guides, I would be interested in buying one.
Larry,

Thanks for that info. That's what I envisioned it would be. Just couldn't get confirmation.

Stephan,

I am going to run my drawing over to a fab shop I have used in the past for work and personal items. I will let ya know how much he want's for one.

Hec
Thank you Hector, Yes I did get the rectangle plate that is used to hold down the motor mount side of the pump bracket. I down loaded the instruction's from here and I will do the cut to the left side engine panel last. I plan on using a Dremel tool with a cut off wheel to do that. Using the template I will drill two holes at the corners then scribe a line and make the cuts. The instructions came in very handy. I used them to buy some new nuts and bolts from JD Parts just to make sure I had everything I needed. Good luck take your time you will be fine. Like I said the hardest thing was getting the manual lift lever out but with the pipe wrench it make fast work of that but the set screw must come all the way out first. Even without the screw you could have used it to lift even a 43 front blade and it wouldn't have budged at all. Some have banged it out with a hammer and block of wood or a chisel from below. I tried that first but couldn't get enough of a blow from down there. I plan on taking a few more photo's.
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I "CUSTOM" (I.E. Used a dremel tool and drill) to fab up the small plate. Made two, used one above and one below the pump bracket, which really made it more rigid.

Hector, I would also be interested in a "hose clamp" if you have any made up. keep us informed!
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Rebuilt the carb and then finished my hydro install. Filled the tank with JD hydraulic fluid and then tested it out with the 43 front blade. Wow works excellent. Can't wait for snow now. Ok maybe I can but was having fun trying it out. Next project is new bearings in the 39 mower deck and I am off to the races. I would like to get a couple suite case weights for the nice bracket I have on the back. I do ok with me and the wheel weights but two JD suite case weights will really make it super. Next over the summer I will be repainting her as the paint is all original at the moment. I followed the instructions for the kit including the template for the side cover and everything went as planed. Instead of making the cuts with a dremel and cut off wheel I used my air saw and made very short work of the last step. I should have done this back when my tractor was new. Great addition and thanks to everyone here for help with any questions.


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Howdy all,

I worked on the 210 yesterday and got the hydro kit installed! It took me 5 hours and 29 mins. Whew. I have never done one before, but it was straight forward. I had all the parts disassembled for painting so that took some time to reassemble. Everything went well with no leaks at all (knock on wood). The hydro kit is worth its weight in gold! The only think left to do is notch the left side cover.

Enjoy!

Hec





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