[gzec]

Have identified a starter problem on my 420. About to remove the starter. Should I buy a new one or get the old rebuilt? Any experience with these?

 

[Hammerdown-7]

Hello Glen
I would replace the starter this Guy can help you, his site name is Boomer his real name is Robert Kummer. I hope this help's, Kurt


http://boomersonanparts.com/

 

[KB]

Rebuilds are relatively cheap in my area, I would expect it to only cost 50-75.

Check the prices with boomer, and call a local auto electric shop to get a quote. i properly rebuilt starter is as good as new

 

[michael l.]

The original starters are better made then anything you can replace it with except another original starter.
These starters get dirty internally and stop working because of it. Disassembling, cleaning, lightly lubricating and they work good as new most of the time.
Brushes and bushings can be bought and are easy to replace.
Mine was not working and the above mentioned maintenance fixed it completely.

 

[gzec]

Do I have to take the engine completely out to remove the starter or just elevated 6" or so?

 

[KB]

a couple inches was all I needed on a 317 with a p-218 and also on a 420 with the p-220. I have not done a b series, and do understand the starter mounts to the oil pan on them, vs mounting on the jug on a p series, so they may be a little different

 

[gzec]

How to get the starter out? Do I need to remove the rear cowl? How many bolts are there and which way do them come from.

 

[charms]

There are two 5/16" bolts (1/2" head), with the head toward the back of the tractor. They are behind the flywheel, so yes the cowl needs to come loose. I may have heard of someone cutting the cowl to get access, but I'm not recommending that. You might have to pull the engine to get at the bolts.

 

[gzec]

Cliff, Do I need to take off the flywheel to get the bolts out?

 

[charms]

It is possible with the flywheel on. Just not as easy.

 

[gzec]

Thank you. Gettin out the recipricating saw!

 

[Hammerdown-7]

Hello Glen
I had a bad starter back when I restored my Tractor a couple of Year's ago. I removed it when I took the engine out which was an Onan B-43-E as it bolted to the Oil Pan. I replaced it with an OEM Onan starter. I took apart my Old starter to see just what was wrong with it and found one of the armature wire's had Come Loose and Gotten in the Magnetic field area of the starter where it ground it down and melted the wiring of it. My new start has Not acted up again. Robert Kummer has OEM starter's at a Very reasonable price his site Name is Boomer, & Here is his E-mail Link for you he is a nice Guy to deal with as well. I hope this help's Regards, Kurt

http://boomersonanparts.com/

 

[gzec]

Found a rebuild place near me. I'll update next week.

 

[7579lincoln]

I had the starter go out on both of my 318's at the same time. I went the rebuild route as there is a quality rebuilder about 25 miles from my house. On both starters, there was dirt that somehow got packed inside. On both starters the solenoids were replaced, the commentators turned down in a lathe, new brushes installed and new bushings installed on them. One rebuild cost $53 while the other one cost $83. I don't know why one cost $30 more than the other, but both work like new. You can buy starters off ebay for about $70, but they are Chinese made and don't have a good reputation for longevity. With all the work to remove them, I chose the rebuild route rather than the used OEM or new Chinese made one. If you go the used route, look for "Onan" or "Mitshibushi" labels on them as that will be an OEM starter.

 

[gzec]

I did get it rebuilt. Same day service. $125. I also thought the old rebuilt would be better than new chinese.

 

[wmgeorge]

Kind of pricey. I had a Cushman scooter 1962 model year rebuilt and it was less than $50. The guy did say.... parts are getting hard to find.

 

[gzec]

Unfortunately I live, and the repair shop is in a pricey area.