Front wheels lugs on a JD 140?
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The ones I have seen I believe were trailer or golf cart wheels, which have a "standard" bolt pattern so you can find wheel hubs with bearings that fit on the 1" spindle.
No idea what bolt pattern those new tractors would have or what you would do for hubs. Did the 2wd tractors have bolt on front wheels too or just the awd?
No idea what bolt pattern those new tractors would have or what you would do for hubs. Did the 2wd tractors have bolt on front wheels too or just the awd?
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Kalin
Several people on this site have done this. I would do a search and find out the difficulties they had. Some things I remember are rubbing the tie rods, the mower deck wheels, and getting the hub mounted on the axle. Good Luck.
Several people on this site have done this. I would do a search and find out the difficulties they had. Some things I remember are rubbing the tie rods, the mower deck wheels, and getting the hub mounted on the axle. Good Luck.
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Kalin,
Here is how I did it for my 1 inch spindles on a 317:
http://www.wfmachines.com/discus/messages/335/393172.html
Hope this helps...
Chuck
Here is how I did it for my 1 inch spindles on a 317:
http://www.wfmachines.com/discus/messages/335/393172.html
Hope this helps...
Chuck
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These are the wheels I won't mike duwe. It's not that o want the lugs for bling. It's the only way you can mount these newer style wheels. Would like them on one of my 140's I own. Thanks chuck van Dusen. I will look into different ways of lugs on ATV etc. if it was the stick wheels mike I would perfectly fine with the single hub mount.
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Kalin,
The 10 inch rim size shown in my links and the ones on the most recent x700s that you show above only come as 5 lug rims as you noted -- hence the hubs are needed to run this style/size. The hubs also allow you to quickly change to other rim/tire combinations (I had multiple tractors with the five lug front hubs...)
A word of caution on the Surplus Center hubs -- they have 1/2 inch wheel studs and the Deere wheel is set up for metric lug bolts so you may have to enlarge the lug holes slightly. Mine fit but were tight and it might be preferable to grind or drill them out a little and touch up the paint to keep it from rusting there...
Mike...those fronts do look like bling, but in my case I got the wheels and tires at such a bargain price that the cost of the hubs was a no-brainer. The 16x6.50-8 Carlisle ribbed tires mounted on 5 lug rims were from Surplus center at $34 each when I bought them, and the complete set of new SCUT wheels and tires (Carlisle 26x12.00-24 rears and 18x8.50-10 fronts) mounted on the factory Deere rims were $150 off a local CL ad. Here are both sizes on the two 322 tractors.
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The 10 inch rim size shown in my links and the ones on the most recent x700s that you show above only come as 5 lug rims as you noted -- hence the hubs are needed to run this style/size. The hubs also allow you to quickly change to other rim/tire combinations (I had multiple tractors with the five lug front hubs...)
A word of caution on the Surplus Center hubs -- they have 1/2 inch wheel studs and the Deere wheel is set up for metric lug bolts so you may have to enlarge the lug holes slightly. Mine fit but were tight and it might be preferable to grind or drill them out a little and touch up the paint to keep it from rusting there...
Mike...those fronts do look like bling, but in my case I got the wheels and tires at such a bargain price that the cost of the hubs was a no-brainer. The 16x6.50-8 Carlisle ribbed tires mounted on 5 lug rims were from Surplus center at $34 each when I bought them, and the complete set of new SCUT wheels and tires (Carlisle 26x12.00-24 rears and 18x8.50-10 fronts) mounted on the factory Deere rims were $150 off a local CL ad. Here are both sizes on the two 322 tractors.
Chuck
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Thanks chick for the information. For now I just want to work on purchasing those wheels to put away but start doing reaserch on how and searching for the parts need and what to look for to swap one of my 140's/120's over to those wheels with 5 lug in the front. Seen one tractor with them on and looks really good on it. Can't find that picture again. I do have 2 machine shops here that could possibly make special ones for me but also don't want to spend a ton of money on it. Stretch out over time maybe. They do my hubs for ATV's and wheels and parts for big dog when they were in company etc.
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Kalin,
If machining is an option, then maybe you can modify some 140 front spindles to be metric -- obviously welding would be needed at a minimum. If metric, you can use the hubs that Deere makes for later tractors. The part number is AM140109 and GreenFarmParts.com has them for about $97 each -- more than when I did my conversion but still within reach once you have metric spindles...and you can use the correct metric lug bolts without any modifications to the bolt holes on the rims.
The bearings in the AM140109 hubs are identical to the standard wheels with integral bearings, so they do not increase load capacity. The "high speed trailer hubs" as used on the one inch spindles are rated at much higher loads, but you are not likely to exceed either bearing rating even if you have a FEL or similar attachment on a 140 class garden tractor.
Chuck
If machining is an option, then maybe you can modify some 140 front spindles to be metric -- obviously welding would be needed at a minimum. If metric, you can use the hubs that Deere makes for later tractors. The part number is AM140109 and GreenFarmParts.com has them for about $97 each -- more than when I did my conversion but still within reach once you have metric spindles...and you can use the correct metric lug bolts without any modifications to the bolt holes on the rims.
The bearings in the AM140109 hubs are identical to the standard wheels with integral bearings, so they do not increase load capacity. The "high speed trailer hubs" as used on the one inch spindles are rated at much higher loads, but you are not likely to exceed either bearing rating even if you have a FEL or similar attachment on a 140 class garden tractor.
Chuck
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I purchased a set of the five lug trailer hubs off ebay and had a machinist friend shorten them and turn inside to accept the factory 1" bearing out of the wheel. I also purchased 8" 5 lug wheels off a website for about $12 each. Way less than the metric hubs and no need to modify spindles. I also had my machinist buddy cut inside hole on wheels to accept the chrome john deere gator hub centers and used chrome lugs nuts as well. I had him do rear wheels and hubs to accept same centers. Turned out great. Everyone needs a machinist in their buddy list.
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Didn't read too much here, but with mine I originally had the 3/4" axle up front on my 140. I had to do the axle swap from an older one to get the 1" axles or build a spacer adapter. Either way, it is pretty easy to do.
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Mike Meyer, what is the advantage of these hubs for a loader-equipped machine? Thanks.
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Oh, I used surplus center hubs and mine slid right on the 1" front axle I used. The axle swap I did was an axle from a later JD 140.
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