[stevenlavimoniere]

i just picked up 2 john deere 318 both with 44 loaders a sweet 60 inch rear mount mower deck that runs of rear 2000 rpm pto older 60 inch deck with solid shoot hooks up to the 3 point hitch ....didnt know they made them for the loaders .....and a 30 inch rototill my queston is ..will the loader fit on my 420 i would have to go with differant pump i am sure i know the sub frame on the 430 is bigger ..

 

[TempletonJDguy]

Pics?

 

[chuckv]

Steve,

Great scores on the 44 loaders!! In addition to a different pump drive for the 420 front PTO compared to a 318 tractor, you would need a longer sub-frame for the loader, I believe. The rest of it would be the same...

The 30 tiller is hydraulic, yes? Is it a belly drive unit or a rear drive with the second (rear) PTO arrangement? If the latter, it also would work on your 420. Pictures please....

Chuck

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

pics from todays score

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

there rouf but i can fix them up nicely .. nothing is running at this point .

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

Steve,

Great scores on the 44 loaders!! In addition to a different pump drive for the 420 front PTO compared to a 318 tractor, you would need a longer sub-frame for the loader, I believe. The rest of it would be the same...

The 30 tiller is hydraulic, yes? Is it a belly drive unit or a rear drive with the second (rear) PTO arrangement? If the latter, it also would work on your 420. Pictures please....

Chuck

mower deck runs of the rear pto ,,tiller of pully pump both loaders need work hoses and one needs a pump and hoses i am thinking of using the pump and hoses of the tiller i think its the same ..

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

mower deck runs of the rear pto ,,tiller of pully pump both loaders need work hoses and one needs a pump and hoses i am thinking of using the pump and hoses of the tiller i think its the same ..

sub frames on ebay got for 1200 crazy money .. i might set one up on a 430 .. that would be sweet ..

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

mower deck runs of the rear pto ,,tiller of pully pump both loaders need work hoses and one needs a pump and hoses i am thinking of using the pump and hoses of the tiller i think its the same ..

chuck check out the rear mower deck .i never seen one like this before . runs of the rear pto . 60 inch heavy duty wheels . if you have the loader on you can mow from the rear ...

 

[chuckv]

The pump on the tiller is much different from the loader pump -- tiller pump is 9 GPM and 2000 PSI max. The loader pump is 5.25 GPM and rated at 1000 PSI as I recall.

The loader pump is part number PT9200 for the 318, 322, 332 and is a clockwise rotation. The loader pump for a 420 or 430 needs to be a counter-clockwise rotation and is part number PT9201.

And yes, the 260 rear grooming mower runs off the 2000 RPM gear reduction rear PTO/drive and can be used in conjunction with front attachments or the loader if mounted. Does the second 318 tractor in the pictures -- the one with the weight box -- have a rear PTO of any kind fitted to it? Can't really tell much from the pictures, but it does not appear to have a 3-pt on that one.

Chuck

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

only one has a 3 point hitch and rear 2000 rpm pto ..other one just has a weight box ..

 

[TempletonJDguy]

That’s a good score. I wouldn’t mind that 260 mower if your selling.

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

That’s a good score. I wouldn’t mind that 260 mower if your selling.

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

i have 11 ...318s now 4 ...430 3 ...420 and 1 ...322 i might need to start trimming the hurd lol

 

[TempletonJDguy]

I think you and I may be drinking the same koolaid 🤣

 

[tmac58star]

Lucky pup! You're sick young man...definitely afflicted by G&Y syndrome.

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

Lucky pup! You're sick young man...definitely afflicted by G&Y syndrome.

i am 58 not so young ..

 

[chuckv]

No...58 is still a young man from where I view things... Anyone younger than my own children is still young to me...

Chuck

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

Lucky pup! You're sick young man...definitely afflicted by G&Y syndrome.

i could be doing worse thing with my time then working on old tractor

 

[stevenlavimoniere]

The pump on the tiller is much different from the loader pump -- tiller pump is 9 GPM and 2000 PSI max. The loader pump is 5.25 GPM and rated at 1000 PSI as I recall.

The loader pump is part number PT9200 for the 318, 322, 332 and is a clockwise rotation. The loader pump for a 420 or 430 needs to be a counter-clockwise rotation and is part number PT9201.

And yes, the 260 rear grooming mower runs off the 2000 RPM gear reduction rear PTO/drive and can be used in conjunction with front attachments or the loader if mounted. Does the second 318 tractor in the pictures -- the one with the weight box -- have a rear PTO of any kind fitted to it? Can't really tell much from the pictures, but it does not appear to have a 3-pt on that one.

Chuck

you have a vast array of knowledge pretty amazing .. thats how i am with stuff as i go along ,and spend year with it .. Rome was not built in a day

 

[chuckv]

Steve,

Just another piece of information for the 44 loader -- even thought the pump is rated to 1000 PSI, the working pressure is set by the relief valve. JD parts lists two separate part numbers for the 44 relief valve. PN PT9207 (625 PSI) for 3xx series, and PN PT9206 (700 PSI) for 4xx series.

Chuck