[G_dorst]

Pulled the Kohler for my 316 as it was running rough. Honed, ringed, valve grind and new bearing in the balancing gears. Timed per shop manual, now it runs rougher than ever,hops like crazy (new mounts), backfires like a truck when shut down. I suspect the balancing gears.
Thoughts???
Thanks

 

[ereed011]

Most people use the balance gears for paper weights.......like me. There nick name is " Grenade Gears "
Roy

 

[david_a_calkins]

Gary ,sounds like you have the balance gears out of time ?there is a tool for this ,and it sounds like you might be a little lean .on the carb setting .i got rid of my balance gears and balance the crank ,by its self ..David

 

[G_dorst]

Roy & David, Thanks for your reply. When I reassembled I read all the posts on WFM and should have just tossed the gears. I believe that I read that Kohler used the same crank in the engines with or without the gears. Can I just remove them and reassemble?
Thanks

 

[Jimnjo]

Gary,
Took the ones out of my 341 several years ago. Used the same crank, and haven't had any problems at all.

Jim

 

[david_a_calkins]

Gary ,all send you a picture of what i did to fix this problem .David

 

[ereed011]

Took them out of my 14. It runs nice.
I bet David is sending you a picture of how to remove them with a chisel. Thats what I did....ha
Roy

 

[ereed011]

After I took the snap rings off , one gear would come out . The other needed to be changed in design.

 

[david_a_calkins]

ROY i sent Gary i picture of the balance weight i made to smooth out the engine ,my k-341 didn,t come with balance gears ,how ever places the ,1/2 the out of balance to the side ,and not up and down ,and i did remove the pins .and and gears ,and replaces the pins with plugs,i didn,t want to use a chisel ,and take a chance on braking the case .there is more to this than ,making a plate ,you need to weight the rotating parts and cut that amount in haft ,and that will be your weight size ,i will sent you a picture .David

 

[vooch]

This post came up a while back but the same question still irks me. If the balance gears in my 314 are a "ticking timebomb" (as some guys have described in this forum), then why were they placed in the engines to begin with and what are the ramifications of taking them out?

 

[gonetofarm]

ramifications to removing them? None! Two less rotating items in the motor to cause problems.

 

[david_a_calkins]

Steve ,i believe kohler though they were the thing at the time ,and would help in the balance of the engine ,didn,t work out that way ,and they are a problem ,and make lots of noise .some of the later k-341 didn,t come with them .i still balance my crank ,and some don,t .your call . David

 

[gonetofarm]

out of three k341's I have built only one had a set of balance gears in it.