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I'll post some pics later, but I took the 318 down to our local trailer place, and had them install two new 23X10.5-12 Super Lugs on it. The fun came when I told him that the weights were 80#ers. They actually were for a 420, but the PO had them installed on the 318. The gentleman that did the work was amazed that nothing was rusted up and all the bolts came out easy. After they were on and I looked at them closely, I probably could have gone to 26X tires. As it is, I have plenty of room for the deck. My cost was $185.65 for the pair, mounted with new valve stems. Actual cost per tire was $78.00. I'll be sending business his way soon. Like I said, I'll take pictures this afternoon when the sun goes down some.

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All this making pic sizes smaller is time consuming. Anyway, I'll try again:


I like the looks already.

Gotta remember to keep my fingers from under the fenders.

Impressive stance.

The best thing of all is that my CFO said that it looks like a real tractor now!

I'll pull the grader around tomorrow to test these new shoes!

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Scooter,

After tax, mounting was actually $20.00. It's that dagnabbed tax that gets you! The inside of the wheel looked like new. Not a scratch or rust spot anywhere on the rim.
I loaded some scrap wood into the imitation 89 trailer, and took it up to the burn pile, and the tires were almost smooth, but just a little vibration on the drive.
I hope these tires wear as well as the old ones. If they last for another 23 years, I told the guy that I'd be back for new ones again when I was 90! He said he would have one of the young bucks handle the wheel weights then!

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Richard,
I hate to be the one to tell you but if your talking about the weights in the picture they are only 50 #ers. The lugs look good!!!

these are 75 to 80 #ers
Well maybe Im wrong and you have a set of them under the 50's

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Rick,

When removed from the wheel, they do look like those in the picture. They are marked as 80# in the casting and can only be installed with the wheel set to the wide position. If in the narrow position, they will stick out more. Besides, I have the receipt that states that he bought 80# weights for a 420. Now, I haven't put them on a scale yet, so that would settle all this.

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So the 26" will fit and not effect the cutting deck? What about the height of the tractor vs the deck angle. Always looked the 26" just scared about the effects it might have on the rest of the tractor.
 

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Rick, When the last hold on bolt for the wheel weight was loose, and he pulled on the weight to free it from the wheel, his expression was priceless as the weight came out. I told him it was 80#, and it about tipped him over when it came free!

Jay, With the 46" deck like mine, I think the 26X tires will fit, although I don't know about how they would effect the deck angle front to rear. With the 23X, the deck angle is not impacted and there is plenty of clearance between the seat pan and tires.

John, Yes, I have a Power-Pak MCS that fits on those iron pieces. Oh, and my weight box fits on those as well. I'd have to remove them to add a 3 point hitch, and with our property the MCS has more use than a 3 point.

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No Rick, mine looks similar to the ones that were pictured, thick where it fits inside the rim with a lip that is bigger in diameter. It has four bolt holes and two cutouts like your 50#, and has the indent in the middle. It has John Deere in letters that stand out, it is a cast weight and is clearly marked as 80#. One day I'll pull one off and weigh it. The weights were purchased with the tractor on Long Island, NY in 1987.

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Richard,
First let me say I'm NOT trying to piss anyone off!!!
I have both the starter and wheel weights.
I will get a picture of my starter weights tonight and post them too.
The 50# weight that I posted before LOOKS JUST LIKE THE ONE ON YOUR 318.
Unless you have the starter weight and a wheel weight bolted together, I think someone has re-stamped the wheel weight.


I will bolt a wheel and starter weight together then take a picture too.
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I know you're not Rick. One day I'll take them off and weigh one, that will be the only way to be sure. I will say that mine do look a lot like yours, but the numbers for the weight (80#) is not stamped in, but raised numbers like a casting would leave.
Does anyone have a listing of wheel weights for machines built from 1985 - 1990? Could there have been some specialty weights made during that period?

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No part number Tim, just says 2 80# wheel weights for a 420 mounted on a 318. Just for giggles, the cost per weight was $32.00. Doesn't say if they were new or used.

I'm not arguing either. I just know that the installer nearly fell over when one broke free and he got the entire weight in his hands.

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What size rim is on the tractor would be an easier way to argue the point guys.

With an 8.5" rim the starter weight will stick out
With a 10.5" rim like the 420 430 the starter weight will sit flush with the first rib of the rim.

If the weight in question here is the one as pictured in the last picture of the 318, I hate to break the news to you Richard but those are clearly 50# weights. To me they are heavy enough to manhandle on and off the rim.

The starter weights well, if you watched them put them on you would have been laughing as they too are not manhandle friendly.

As for the price of $32 they would have probably been laying around and this is what they sold them for. The starter weights are in the range of $200 from a dealer.

BTW you'll like the tires


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Romeo,

He bought the tractor and weights in 1987, so that price isn't that far out.

Lets say that for the immediate future, I am not removing the weights to weigh them! I agree to disagree. They work and I really like the tires, and hope they last for at least another twenty years. So, when I have new tires installed in 2030 or so, I'll have the weights weighed then and get back to you all with the results.

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