Robert since I know Roy I would look and see if his e-mail is listed under his members name and ask him. He hasn't been active here for probably 4 or 5 years when he got into old Caddys. If you find that old post you should be able to click on his name and find his e-mail. You could also copy and post the address of the post you are talking about here and if we can see it we may be able to help more. Welcome to WFM. Roger