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Max Bottom Plow size

6.8K views 30 replies 16 participants last post by  rwbell47  
#1 ·
I vistied my local metal scrap yard, and I thought I was in heaven with all the potential projects that could be completed. In the back of the yard there are several bottom plows. What is the max size of cut can a 140 handle. Also, how do you measure the blade size to determine how big of a cut is going to be made.

Thanks for all your help.

Josh
 
#3 ·
To measure a one-bottom plow, looking straight down at it, from the landside to the rear point of the shear (red arrow), straight across (90 degrees to main frame).

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#5 ·
I pulled a 10" this spring and my 140 handled it just fine most of the time but it will all depend on the soil type and Conditions...

Lowell I like the way you mounted the trailing wheel do you have a picture of the other side??
 
#6 ·
I was reading this somewhere, maybe on Brinly's web site or something!
But anyway, as a general rule of thumb, you can figure the possible plow size to tractor by figuring 1" of plow to each horse of the engine, so if you have a 10 horse, you should be able to pull a 10" plow, providing you have enough weight to plant the tires enough to give them bite.

Ken.
 
#7 ·
Bunky, not my plow, I had saved the pic for reference for when I get started on one. I'm thinking of using a cat. 1 hitch tube mounted to the plow frame with the wheel mounted to the 1-1/8" tubing for adjustment. ~~ Lowell D.
 
#8 ·
Hmmmm,
So a 420 can pull a 20" plow?
Maybe in a Flower Bed.

After think about it, Jim D is pulling that 2-10" bottom plow with his 430, or Alex 430. But at what cost? How much stress does it put on the rest of the tractor? There is more to it than horsepower. Some one asked awhile back why I plowed with a 10" plow on my 420. First, It was the first plow that I found to buy when I got it. Second, Why over kill. Yes, I have seen a 140 pull a 12" plow. In some ground that's not a problem. In Western Pa., We have some of the best hard packed clay ground with a few stones to add to the fun. It would give any tractor a good work out. I think the key is to any tractor/plow combo is to take the time to get it set up to plow properly.

Like a story I had heard. An old farmer was being bothered by a pesty salesman. When they noticed another farmer going down the road with an 8n pulling a semi-mount 5 bottom plow. The puzzled salesman asked if that farmer was really planing on pulling that big plow with that little 8n tractor.
The old farmer replied, "You seen him go by didn't you"?.....

I better go now.......
 
#11 ·
Another salesman story.

A farmer was picking fruit off of a tree and a salesman stopped by to talk. Staying on his side of the fence the salesman stated "You're not going to get but half a crop off that tree", the farmer replied "That's all I planned to anyway, the owner gets the other half".
Again the salesman spoke "Not very good looking apples", the farmer said "Not apples they're pears"
Not to let the conversation stop the salesman told the farmer " Not much difference between you and an idiot is there ?"
The farmer replied " Just a fence".
 
#15 ·
Ken,
The more that I thought of it last night...That isn't to far off. Considering the tractor, plow type and ground conditions. I guess I posted that before giving in some thought to the "rule of thumb".

Travis,
I'm just waiting to go to another plow day to "relax"...LOL
 
#16 ·
Ha!
I kind of know what you mean Don!
Mine is usually filled with thought of whatever project that I have going at the time, so by the time I get to the doing stage, I have pretty much finished it in my head, and worked out most all of the wrinkles!
 
#17 ·
I have gone to junk yards and seen plows everywhere and thought about using bottoms off of them. For your 140, a 10" would pull nice, a 12" would put it to work pretty good, but it wouldnt break it.

Depends a lot on soil conditions. The soil in Rockford IA is like black gold with no rocks, and very little clay, and its worked every year some of the guys that go to plow days for "furrow racing" are spoiled out there.

One thing to think about when getting a "bigger" plow bottom is that everything will be overbuilt for a large tractor and the overall weight will be quite high.
 
#18 ·
Mike!
You must have better junk yards around where you live, than what I do here!

To find what you describe around here, you would need to go to one of the independent farm imp dealers, and dig around behind the shop, and then they want top dollar for what they have!
 
#19 ·
Ken, we have tractor salvage yards up here. Acres of anything from farmalls to corn platers.
 
#20 ·
Thanks guys for everything. My only fear is that the scrap yard will make me buy the whole plow when I only want one bottom. It rained here this morning and I was going to go this afternoon, but I don't want to trudge through the mud for my measurements. I will keep the post updated on my progress.

Josh
 
#21 ·
I wouldnt think you would find more then a 2, maybe 3 bottom that would have a 12" or smaller. Most big plows are 14 or 16" bottoms with a lot of iron to attach them.
 
#24 ·
Ken, a 2-8 would be cool, but the furrow would be pretty narrow for wider tires, especially 26x12x12.

With all the rain we have had this year, it might be fall before the 318 pulls anything through the dirt. I have a brinly 12" I restored that will be the first victim.
 
#25 ·
""To measure a one-bottom plow, looking straight down at it, from the landside to the rear point of the shear (red arrow), straight across (90 degrees to main frame). ""

Lowell, could you put another arrow on your pic? I just got ahold of two brinly plows trying to figure out where to measure them. I'm sure it's obvious but i can't figure it out.

Thanks